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The Youtube/Fun Video/Watch This Thread! (Author: odin / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Sat, 17 May 2008 08:21:07 CST

tude dog wrote:

Reminds me of a joke.

Keep Trying Barak (Author: odin / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Sat, 17 May 2008 08:19:11 CST

tude dog wrote:

Really my friend, not even funny.

There, & I thought he looked smart!

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Sat, 17 May 2008 08:12:58 CST

Brian Foley wrote:

Hey its Saturday Mongo

Hell ya!

Next round on me.

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Sat, 17 May 2008 07:11:53 CST

Brian Foley wrote:

And once more :
There is only one wrong that is the first wrong that makes the second wrong inevitable .

You may want to read that again. You say one wrong, and a second wrong.

So you admit there ARE two wrongs.

Two wrongs to not make a right.

Your logic?

My brother poked me so it's ok to punch him in the face.

Some type of response is inevitable, I agree. Action and reaction.

There are right, and wrong ways to react.

The reaction you see, is so fucking wrong it's deplorable. It's a loose loose situation now that they have taken this path.

They sure are drumming up support for their cause. Worked pretty well for them didn't it?

Brian Foley wrote:

Where the fuck have I ever supported any Islamic regime here or anywhere ?

Hamas against Israel. You hope that Hamas wipes Israel off the map. If that is not support, what is?

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Sat, 17 May 2008 05:42:49 CST

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The Youtube/Fun Video/Watch This Thread! (Author: tude dog / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Sat, 17 May 2008 03:48:04 CST

odin wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7uwM2Ogl9Q

Reminds me of a joke.

An Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman are sitting in a bar and each one orders a beer.

Must be some sorry pub but each beer had a fly in the glass.

The Englishman disgusted shoves the glass aside.

The Sctosman picks out the fly tosses it and drinks the brew.

The Irishman takes the fly by the wings, shakes it while shouting,

"Spit it out you bastard, spit it out!"

Keep Trying Barak (Author: tude dog / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Sat, 17 May 2008 03:11:37 CST

[QUOTE=odin]QUOTE]

Oh no, no Odin.

That is so wrong.

Really my friend, not even funny.

I wish it were funny, but you know what, we have to draw the line somewhere, and this does nothing to help defeat that asshole in November.

But thank you for sharing that anyway because I am sure that picture will make the rounds on a lot of sites and I am glad to have seen it before having to hear of it from others.

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Brian Foley / Forum: Current events)

Sat, 17 May 2008 01:34:27 CST

Mongo wrote:

Everytime you applaud the attacks and say they had it coming.

I am just stating what is clearly obvious , and that is interference in other nations leads to a backlash . America funds and arms Israel , America props up the corrupt Saudi Royal family , America installed the Shah of Iran etc, etc this pisses off a lot people off .

Mongo wrote:

You have never denouced the tactics used.

Why ? Because the tactics the West uses on them is far more barbaric , such as employing strategic aerial bombing on nations without air defences , firing Depleted Uranium munitions poisoning the atmosphere , detonating fuel air devices on undefended retreating soldiers . If they bombed a disco or a train or bus all I can say is they were taught that from us .

Mongo wrote:

And you support organizations that believe in stoning women, killing homosexuals, treating woman as property, beheading anyone who gets in there way.

Where the fuck have I ever supported any Islamic regime here or anywhere ? I would like Iran and Saudi Arabia to throw off their Islamic fuck head masters , preferably send them to run America as they are suitable sociopathic enough to run for US office .

Mongo wrote:

Our soldiers come home all fucked up by what they see in war, the terrorists celebrate what they see. They are so proud of their atrocities that they post it all over the net.

Your soldiers come home all Fucked from what they have witnessed their own military doing to civilians .

Mongo wrote:

Oil for food that never reached the ones it was intended for?

A programme sponsored by America and over seen by the US controlled UN , with Iraq under America quaratine .

Mongo wrote:

Repressive dictators and terrorist leaders are exept from any responsibility?

The Taleban US allies and Saddam Hussein an American installed henchman .

Mongo wrote:

Translation, two wrong does make a right.

And once more :
There is only one wrong that is the first wrong that makes the second wrong inevitable .
The second wrong would not happen if a first wrong had not been done !

Mongo wrote:

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Please continue with your debate on Kosovo.

No problem I actually enjoy debate , I hope our Finnish Cup Cake sees our debate and sees how a debate flows and becomes enjoyable when questions are asked then answered , its called progression .

Hey its Saturday Mongo

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Sat, 17 May 2008 00:53:00 CST

Brian Foley wrote:

Mongo wrote:

Does not make the second wrong right.

Where did I say it was Right ???

Everytime you applaud the attacks and say they had it coming.

You have never denouced the tactics used.

Brian Foley wrote:

Mongo wrote:

I can understand your disdain at western societies policies, I cannot buy into your support for the savages.

I cannot understand your support for a policy of illegal sanctions and illegal wars prosecuted by western societies that have snuffed out 2 million lives .

Who says I support all the policies?

When it comes down to choosing who has the better society and culture, the west wins hands down.

And you support organizations that believe in stoning women, killing homosexuals, treating woman as property, beheading anyone who gets in there way. They are creating a generation of sick fucks who care nothing about doing bad things. Our soldiers come home all fucked up by what they see in war, the terrorists celebrate what they see. They are so proud of their atrocities that they post it all over the net.

Wonder what they will teach the next generation.

Ill chose the west over these sick fucks any day.

Brian Foley wrote:

western societies that have snuffed out 2 million lives .

2 million? That number is based on what? Oil for food that never reached the ones it was intended for?

Repressive dictators and terrorist leaders are exept from any responsibility? Give me a break.

Mongo wrote:

How far back to you want to go?

I did this because you did that.

No, I did that becuase you did this.

No, I did that because you did this.

Brian Foley wrote:

In your case it has the wrong of invading Afghanistan and the second wrong of invading Iraq has made a moral right .

Translation, two wrong does make a right.

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Brian Foley / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 23:37:31 CST

Mongo wrote:

Your hypocrisy is showing.

What Fucking Hypocrisy ?
This is where your hypocrisy shines through the most , on one hand you denounce Chinas occupation of Tibet , yet on the other hand celebrates Afghanistan's and Iraq's occupation as just !!!

Mongo wrote:

Does not make the second wrong right.

Where did I say it was Right ???
Re-Read the thread :

Brian Foley wrote:

My opinion on the 200 dead in Madrid

Fuck em the Spainish conquerors have inflicted untold misery and oppression on the Basques they have brought this on themselves . The liberation army of the Basques ETA has acted with patriotism and are now taking the war into the enemies front garden . The Basques have every right to their own nation it is a right . In short let this be a warning to those people who justify their nations invasions of smaller nations .
IRA , ETA , PLO , IRAQ ONE STRUGGLE ONE NATION

I clearly write in regards to what is right :
"The Basques have every right to their own nation it is a right"
And I apportion the blame of fallout to the nation .
"they have brought this on themselves"
Just like in Australia with Bali , we all know that Australia has become a target .

Mongo wrote:

The terrorists wanted this war as much as Bush did. They pushed for this war. They got the inevitable response now didn't they?

What war ?????

Its been proven Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 , Iraq has been exonerated of every accusation of involvement as well . Its a ceded fact that the CIA trained , equiped with arms and financed Al Qaeda the very ones who carried out 9/11 !!

Mongo wrote:

How far back to you want to go?I did this because you did that.No, I did that becuase you did this.No, I did that because you did this.

When do you stop and be honest with yourself and say "Yes we are the perpetrators of this war "

Mongo wrote:

This is where your logic leads.
Never, ever has 2 wrongs made a right.

In your case it has the wrong of invading Afghanistan and the second wrong of invading Iraq has made a moral right .

Mongo wrote:

BTW, 3 lefts make a right.

And 4 lefts make a complete circle , right back to where you started .

Mongo wrote:

I can understand your disdain at western societies policies, I cannot buy into your support for the savages.

I cannot understand your support for a policy of illegal sanctions and illegal wars prosecuted by western societies that have snuffed out 2 million lives .

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 21:35:59 CST

Brian Foley wrote:

Mongo wrote:

Brian Foley wrote:

I stated as regards to 9/11 and the Bali and Madrid bombings in prior threads that these nations ie: America, Australia and Spain had it coming

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your bias is showing.

There is only one wrong that is the first wrong that makes the second wrong inevitable .

Your ignorance is showing

Your hypocrisy is showing.

Does not make the second wrong right.

It makes a response inevitable, does not excuse the type of response.

The terrorists wanted this war as much as Bush did. They pushed for this war. They got the inevitable response now didn't they?

How far back to you want to go?

I did this because you did that.

No, I did that becuase you did this.

No, I did that because you did this.

This is where your logic leads.

Never, ever has 2 wrongs made a right.

BTW, 3 lefts make a right.

I can understand your disdain at western societies policies, I cannot buy into your support for the savages.

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Brian Foley / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 20:44:12 CST

Mongo wrote:

Brian Foley wrote:

I stated as regards to 9/11 and the Bali and Madrid bombings in prior threads that these nations ie: America, Australia and Spain had it coming

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your bias is showing.

There is only one wrong that is the first wrong that makes the second wrong inevitable .

Your ignorance is showing

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 20:37:46 CST

Brian Foley wrote:

I stated as regards to 9/11 and the Bali and Madrid bombings in prior threads that these nations ie: America, Australia and Spain had it coming

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your bias is showing.

Keep Trying Barak (Author: odin / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Fri, 16 May 2008 18:24:43 CST

Keep Trying Barak (Author: odin / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Fri, 16 May 2008 16:51:59 CST

tude dog wrote:

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Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Brian Foley / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 16:37:46 CST

Mongo wrote:

Yes you are.

No I did not here is the original post here from 2004:

Brian Foley wrote:

My opinion on the 200 dead in Madrid
Fuck em the Spainish conquerors have inflicted untold misery and oppression on the Basques they have brought this on themselves . The liberation army of the Basques ETA has acted with patriotism and are now taking the war into the enemies front garden . The Basques have everyright to their own nation it is a right . In short let this be a warning to those people who justify their nations invasions of smaller nations .
IRA , ETA , PLO , IRAQ ONE STRUGGLE ONE NATION

Here are some interesting support on that same thread :

Indubioproreo wrote:

EngineerSoldier wrote:

Genosse wrote:

Who are "those" people?

How many of you want to join me in a moment of thoight for the victims and their family before we all get back to yelling at each other and calling for blood?

When an act of war is perpetrated against you, it is absurd to treat it like some natural disaster that can only be regretted and solemnized. There is an enemy that attacked those people. It was not some obscure tradgedy, it was an act of war.

It is a war. But that war was not started by the terrorists.
Action reaction. And terrorism is the reaction part.
Think about what the "action" part is. And to get rid of it is the only way to get rid of terrorism.

Indubioproreo an old friend could see it , why cant others thats because you are blinded by propaganda .

Mongo wrote:

You said that they are right to attack civilian targets. If you die by terrorists, don't blame the terrorists but your own country. The one that you had no choice to be born into.

I stated as regards to 9/11 and the Bali and Madrid bombings in prior threads that these nations ie: America, Australia and Spain had it coming .And any blame that is accorded for loss of life is to be laid at the feet of the aggressor nations .

Mongo wrote:

If that is what you are saying, and you did. Then you agree that the terrorists are right. You can't blame them.

Countries reap what they sow with aggressive policies .

Mongo wrote:

Two wrongs do not make a right.

There is only one wrong that is the first wrong that makes the second wrong inevitable .

Keep Trying Barak (Author: tude dog / Forum: SfD Lounge)

Fri, 16 May 2008 16:22:49 CST

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 07:07:14 CST

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Please continue with your debate on Kosovo.

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Mongo / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 07:00:37 CST

Brian Foley wrote:

Im not saying they are right , my logic is simple if your nation invades , or aids and abets another nation in invading other nations and occupying them illegally . Then the resulting violence is the responsibility of the nation or the alliance of nations which caused the trouble in the first place

Yes you are. You said that they are right to attack civilian targets. If you die by terrorists, don't blame the terrorists but your own country. The one that you had no choice to be born into.

If that is what you are saying, and you did. Then you agree that the terrorists are right. You can't blame them.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Kosovo declares independence! (Author: Brian Foley / Forum: Current events)

Fri, 16 May 2008 03:52:37 CST

Mongo wrote:

Even if I believed in your logic Brian, two wrong do not make a right.

Mongo wrote:

It takes a sick fuck to attack civilians that are not responsible for policy.

The sick fucks it took who over saw the needless deaths of 1 million Iraqi children who were not responsible for policy under the sanctions ?

The sick fucks who bombed Iraq everyday from 1990 to 2003 maiming and killing thousands of Iraqis who were not responsible for policy ?

Mongo wrote:

Has their tactics gotten them anywhere but dead yet?

Yes the tactics lets see .......

They LIED Iraq had no WMD
They LIED Iraq had no Atomic Bomb
They LIED Iraq had no biological weaponery
They LIED Iraq had no ties to Al Qaeda
They LIED Iraq had no ties to 9/11

Has their tactics gotten them anywhere ?
The answer is nearing 5,000 US soldiers killed and 20,000 wounded !

So whats been accomplished ?

They LIED to invade Iraq and after 2003 every LIE has been exposed , yet the people have not not thrown the LIARS in jail , instead the people cling to their shepherds of death .

Since 1990 an excess of 2+ million innocent Iraqis have died Mongo because of your policy . So when a Iraqi or Afghan plants a huge massive destructive bomb that detonates somewhere in the Mid West killing thousands in revenge for your policy , blame your leaders , take them to court , sue them , those people would still be alive if they had not invaded other countries .